Fr. Ephraim of Arizona talks about the reality of Hell versus the Hell of consciousness in the theology of the Christian East.
Full transcript: https://otelders.org/theology-and-spirituality/hell-not-parable-fr-ephraim-arizona/
Fr. Ephraim:
Today, theologians, people who studied theology, believe, wrongly and anti-dogmatically, that the hell of souls is at the level of consciousness, and it is not a reality, a hypostatic one. And this is a diabolical idea.
Why? For the following reason:
Satan wants to minimize the gravity of the torments of real hell to diminish the fear of hell, which is a medicine against sin.
When I think that hell is at the consciousness level, I will try, thinking here on Earth, and giving way to sins, I will try to convince myself, to build a form of conscience, so that, I don’t need to think about what I have committed against God.
To create a sick situation so that I don’t need to suffer for an eternity… this is according to this demonic idea.
And then I will live comfortably here on Earth and I will prepare my conscience and I will not suffer.
But things are totally different…
St. John Chrysostom writes a lot about the real hell, according to the doctrine of our Orthodox Church.
He was asked: “Where is it, Father, the abyss of hell? Where is hell? Can we see it?”
And the one with golden mouth and golden mind answered:
“Do not investigate where the Gehenna is, but take care of yourself, to improve your life by repentance so as not to get into hell! Do not torture your mind”, he said, “with a curiosity caused by pride, to find out where the abbys is, for God is faithful”.
God does not lie.
God does not deceive.
God cannot be mocked.
Everything He said is real.
Hell is not a parable.
And the confirmation of this dogma of the beautiful and undefiled Orthodox Church, is the practical life of the ascetics.
Ascetic tradition confirms dogma!
I do not have much respect for religion motivated by fear. The Church Fathers believed in Universal Salvation. Read Ilaria Ramelli's scholarly book to realise this.
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The Reality of Hell: http://ancientfaithbiblestudy.blogspot.com/search?q=hell
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Molitvama Svetih Otaca naših, Gospode Isuse Hriste Bože naš, pomiluj nas grešne. Amin! 🙏
With the prayers of our Holy Fathers, Lord Jesus Christ our God, have mercy on us. Amen! 🙏
Hristos a Înviat!!!
Thank you+
Glory be to God for all things+
Hell was created for Satan and his demons – they themselves fell from God – Satan chose to oppose God and choose his ‘own’ dominion because he had lost the AGAPE -(Α γαπ Ω – love – God is LOVE+
Hell is a place AWAY from God – there where you will be VOID of love and what you chose in this earthly life of how you lived is where ones eternal soul will belong – if one is repented with true tears and humble prayers and walking the path of Christs teachings then Gods Mercy applies to ALL that truly seek it, not artificial tears or repentance but TRUE humble soft heart – PRIDE was the sin of Satan(lucifer) and then it overtook him in all his thoughts – Satan hated God for creating Man and sought to destroy Gods children – deception and it begins in the mind(NOUS) those evil or negative or proud thoughts in our mind are actual whispers of demons – take no notice but -sign yourselves with the Cross and pray, those thoughts will disappear –
Glory be to God for all things+++
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Slava lui Dumnezeu !!!
Is this Elder Ephraim himself?
It sounds like a woman, a Nun.
Wonderful, let us all understand and grow closer to God. Christ is in our midst!
Dumnezeu să-l odihnească!
And so our society is full of deceit. Lord have mercy
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Wise words as always.
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What's dogma?
SATAN IS THE TORMENTOR!
Thus by your own mouths, you have unwittingly called your Satan your ways and your doings! Stop profaning My name and desecrating the Glory of My majesty, for you have surely blasphemed The Spirit of Truth!
Again I say, repent, and have greater understanding of My Mercy, which endures forever. For The Son of Man did indeed sleep in the heart of the earth, His tomb, for three days and three nights [18], yet by no means did He descend into the evils of man’s imaginings!
[19] Become again a child of God, and seek to know Me as I truly am. Beloved ones, the eternal state of My punishment
[20] is the second death
[21], the grave from which one shall never be raised. For they have been cast out, forever separated from God and their part in life. So then those under condemnation are dead. In no way are they part of the living, nor are they living in torment; they know nothing at all.
[22] Their inheritance is lost, they have been blotted out, once again
[23] Thus all those who believe in The Son And obey His voice shall rise and live… Yet those who hate The Son will not see Life, For the wrath of God remains upon them
[24]… Says The Lord. ~ (The Volumes of Truth, Volume 3)
The Father and The Son – ARE ECHAD — ONE —- THE HOLY SPIRIT COMES THROUGH BOTH!!!
The First Resurrection
11/15/04 From The Lord, Our God and Savior
The Word of The Lord Spoken to Timothy
For All Those Who Have Ears to Hear
(Regarding the state of the dead[1])
"Thus says The Lord: All people sleep in death, both those who have done good and those who have done evil. In no way are they among the living, nor are they aware. They know nothing at all, for all their thoughts have perished with them.[2] All remain at rest, until the day I call them to awake; some to the first, the resurrection of life, and many more to the second, the resurrection of judgment.[3] Blessed and holy are those who take part in the first resurrection. For over them the second death[4] has no power, as it is written.[5]"
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"Yet The Messiah did indeed pay the penalty for your sins, even unto death… He is risen, the firstborn from the dead;[6] by which you are also delivered from death, if you so choose to receive of His life, if you so choose to embrace Him as He truly is!
For He alone will stretch out His hand in that day
And lift His beloved from the grave in which all must sleep,
Save those who remain awake at His coming, as it is written[7]…
And behold, the time is indeed coming, when all
Who are in the grave will hear His voice and come out…
Those who have done good, to the resurrection of life…
And those who have done evil, to the resurrection of judgment[8]…
I AM THE LORD."
http://www.answersonlygodcangive.com/Regarding_the_First_and_Second_Resurrection
Delusional clergyman that's never experienced mystical union.
He referred to 'diabolical' from diabolos, the 'di' refers to duality, two of 'di'.
As God is in singularity and that singularity is in absolute love then 'sin' ( missing the mark) means missing the point, being wrapped up in yourself, the point being 'their' point.
'Their point' is the other human's underlying reason for their behaviour/s that you can only, profoundly intuitively feel when you are totally and selflessly empathicaly immersed in watching and list-ening to them, oneness in God, as he and our Lord Jesus the Christ are in humanity
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Yes there exists in our sick society today an idea that through mental training the conscience which allows guilt and therefore longing to come back to God through repentance to be ignored. Therefore immorality is rife Kyrie eleison 🙏 Kyrie eleison 🙏 Kyrie eleison
Hell is real. Do good in your lives, do the best you can. Be the light to others in this world.
Felicitări
Hell is just a state of mind. If you do a mistake and realize it, the pain it gets you itself is hellish.
Do good things in life as its your true nature.
Waking up and being aware is the moto and not doing good things just out of fear of hell.
It's sad, some saints believe everything in the Bible and quran and Torah as it is without interpreting it intellectually.
Yes, we can think of and believe what we want about hell, but hell as is heaven goes beyond mere belief, thought, and consciousness. Vain are the intellects who see only this earth's knowledge rather than the Light of the knowlede of the very God manifested to his in the flesh and matter of Jesus Christ.
Marxists, atheists, and other God deniers will find their beliefs melting unto dissolution in the fires of hell.
Bless us, Jesus, for we confess Your Greatness !
Why Father Tomas Hopko explains this differently then? There are so many different opinions on this topic. I am so confused.
Doamne Ajuta!