VIDEO: FRANKS – PART 2C

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1. I believe from my readings that the Catholic movement started before the Franks moved in. The Catholics started rebelling when the Orthodox church started taking eastern characteristics, especially with the Arab influence. For example, iconoclasm and icon restoration. The happy medium was icons yes, statues no. But in the west they continued with statues. There were at least 15 Greek Popes before the schism.

2. The Orthodox church also had its splits (heresies) throughout history. The Monophisites, the Nestorians, the Coptics, which still exist today. Emperors through councils tried to tweak christianity to encompass all these breakoffs, but oftentimes it was the Pope that vehemently found these attempts at reconcilation with heresies as preposterous.

3. This eastern influence on the Greek world started from Alexander the Great's conquered lands in the east. Many of the founding fathers of the church were from Asia Minor. The influence of icons from Egypt. All these lands were Hellenized and opened the door not only for the spread of Christianity but later also for Islam. The Greeks planted the seed of a universal creator to an otherwise predominately pagan world.

4. The late Frankish influence (Charlamage) retarted any Catholic attempts to preserve its orthodoxy.

5. Although Rome fell in 410, it was re-taken by New Rome (Constantinople) and remained under New Rome's wing until the Franks started gaining momentum and bought Rome out around 962 AD. Less than 100 years after that, the church split.

6. Do you have links, etc., on this "Theraputic" aspect of the Church?

7. Search for the author, "Metropolitan Hierotheos of Naupaktos". Though he is a member of a Ecumenist body his writings on Orthodox therapy are very good.

8. @macpduff @macpduff Early on, the Latins relied heavily on the Greeks for church guidance since Christiaty was translated in the the universl language of its time Greek Hence the Grk Popes.Mass in the first 4 cent was given in Greek.You have to understd that Old Rome was moved to Constinpl and called New Rome. This also was the new hdqs of the "catholic" church.

9. @macpduff Old Rome was sacked, re-invaded and separated from mainstream catholicism, Old Rome was being influenced by recently converted nations in exchange for protection. The church evolved through councils. It was the Pope that decided it did not need confer in the other churches left by the Apostles to make change.

10. @macpduff

    Dear macpduff,

    We highly recommend this essay:

    romanity.org/htm/rom.03.en.franks_romans_feudalism_and_doctrine.01.htm

11. @agricola

    Thank you for your comment, Agricola.

12. @agricola Alexander's teacher was Aristotle.In metaphysics Aristotelianism had a profound influence on philosophical and theological thinking in the Islamic and Jewish traditions in the Middle Ages and it continues to influence Christian theology especially the scholastic tradition of the Catolic Chrch and some strains ofEastern Orthodox thought.The Greeks knew that before the Gods there were the Titans and before the Titans was mther earth and father sky.It all led back to a universal creator.

13. This is so informative. This discussion really clears up so much of history. I appreciate this being in English because this is very helpful teaching. I would not have wanted to miss out on it.

14. Cleanerfloors writes: "This is so informative. This discussion really clears up so much of history. I appreciate this being in English because this is very helpful teaching. I would not have wanted to miss out on it."

    You're welcome…

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