When it comes to ‘being saved’ the Orthodox Church teaches a different understanding of our relationship with God than other Christians. What makes the issue more complicated is that we often use the same terms, like saved, to discuss quite different concepts. So when an Orthodox Christian is asked the question, “Are you saved?” our…
When it comes to ‘being saved’ the Orthodox Church teaches a different understanding of our relationship with God than other Christians. What makes the issue more complicated is that we often use the same terms, like saved, to discuss quite different concepts. So when an Orthodox Christian is asked the question, “Are you saved?” our answer should be, “I was saved, I am saved, and I am being saved.” We do not pinpoint our salvation to an exact moment in time as do many Protestants. For us, the concept is different.
Great video! I'm an Orthodox Christian and I have friends who are Baptists, but are also followers of John Calvin. How do I continue this conversation especially when the subject flows towards the concept of the "elect"?
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Let me show u, What is meant by (I am being saved)
Heb 3:12= Take care, brothers, lest there be in any of you an evil, unbelieving heart, leading you TO FALL AWAY from the living God !
Heb 3:14= For we have come to share in Christ, if indeed WE HOLD our original confidence firm TO THE END !
John 15:4= ABIDE IN ME !
1 Cor 9:26-27= So I do not run aimlessly, I do not box as one beating the air, But I discipline my body and keep it under control, lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified.
In other words, St. Paul worked at his salvation to attain that for which he hoped. And yet, he knew that he was not working under his own power but in the power of God.
Thus he urged the Philippians 2:12-13= Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, WORK OUT YOUR SALVATION with fear and trembling. For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do His good pleasure
The Orthodox do not doubt the power of God. We do not doubt that God is able to keep all that come to Him. But, He will not keep them against their will. Salvation must be a free relationship, or it is no relationship at all.
Therefore, the Christian remains ever vigilant lest he fall !
Greetings !
Do you know old greek?
What is the hymn in the beginning?
Who are some of the great Eastern Orthodox theologians of history (or, at least, theologians with whom Eastern Orthodox churches agree)? Could you recommend to me their magnum opuses?
I hope so? Every person is saved or lost. Headed for Heaven or headed for Hell.
Can you say for sure right know that, if I died at this moment I'd be in Heaven with the Lord?
Myself, I'm heaven as I type this, and couldn't go to Hell if I tried. I know without a doubt I'm saved. Once saved always saved, thank you Jesus.
If you don't know for sure where you are going the moment after you die you make a liar out of God. " For by grace are ye saved through FAITH, and that not of yourselves, it is the GIFT OF GOD, AND NOT OF WORKS, LEST ANY MAN SHOULD BOAST."
God always helps us if we are near
Well, the bible talks about many things in past as already happened as security of things received and believed by the believer.
My baptist friends say that “works are like filthy rags” which they claim is translated “menstrual rags”. They claim the “saving” is like an egg coming to life. So , I ask them how is that “birth “. The eggs conceives (receives) life but it still has to continue to grow in the womb before “birth” occurs.
Furthermore, Jesus compared his crucifixion to “birth pangs” which meant Our Lord compared the dying process to the rebirth.
Therefore, we finish the race, and are reborn into heaven when we die.
Right?
"No assurance of salvation is no salvation at all."
-Martin Luther